MH-17:

Unanswered Questions

The information included here is not meant to encourage a rush to judgement.

It is however, with the victims and their grieving families in mind, all desperate for answers, that I have included omitted deleted or redacted data in the belief that many of you will not have had access to some (if not all) of it.

I knew nobody on this flight but have many times traversed the flight path en route to elsewhere.

If it had been myself who was a victim, I would be grateful that there were individuals out there still thinking about me, even though none knew me, and were attempting to find answers for my grieving loved ones and relatives – if I had any.   if I had none, likewise grateful that such were just seeking answers as to why I and my fellow passengers so tragically (and in an instant) ceased to exist.

Is it a foregone conclusion that we know the answers? Certainly not.

Is it a foregone conclusion that foul play was involved? Certainly yes.

Was this premeditated mass murder or just a terrible accident? To date there is no conclusive proof either way.

Do we know for certain who is to blame? Investigations are still in progress and until the experts have given their majority (and possibly dissenting) opinions (and perhaps those views will also be challenged) nobody can (nor should) offer any conclusive judgements

I am including video material showing what appears to be a commercial/civilian airliner (in the background) falling from the sky.

I have neither verified the 3-D topography, contours nor other details required to give proper identification but have included the material for anyone who might shed further light on it.

I am working on the assumption that this is neither faked nor edited but just normal raw footage. My basis for this is what I would expect to find as an extract in a modern fighter aircraft recording in real time.

The weather conditions at the exact time (of the presumed tragedy included here) appear to be slightly overcast maybe with light drizzle and certainly not a clear sky.  The topological layout (in a 3-D setting) is not a difficult problem to resolve.  There would appear to be two fighter/military aircraft in the immediate vicinity.  This is in keeping with the report which I had at that time of the tragedy about there being 2 fighter aircraft in the vicinity and which you will find in an earlier blog last year.  I was never able to confirm from a second independent source the presence of 2 fighter aircraft (and I said this in my blog at the time of the incident last year.)  I believe I was either the only or one of two individuals in the world to be confirming two fighter aircraft in the vicinity of the incident.  Even Russian military reports on State News Channels were only talking about one military fighter being seen in the immediate vicinity at the time of the tragedy.  Other Russian Federation news channels were likewise referring to the possible presence of one fighter aircraft in the immediate vicinity of the incident.
This video footage below appears to now vindicate my single source of information at the time of the incident last year.

A Personal Note

BBC Deletion of Evidential Material From It's Website

The BBC  explains why it removed a Report by Ms. Olga Ivshina from it's website.  You will find their public reasons when you attempt to access the deleted material.

In such circumstances as exist, the deletion of  information which could assist with a case where mass murder is suspected, the reputation of the BBC, as a credible new source, may very well suffer long-term irreparable damage in many parts of the world.  It's not the issue of 'fair and balanced' coverage but because we are talking about a potential War Crime, all evidential information which is credible should be available for examination - not just 'on demand' - but as a public record.

I saw nothing in Ms. Olga Ivshina's Report which suggested conscious or unconscious bias.  Quite the opposite, from what I viewed, Ms Ivshina went out of her way to attempt to cover, as best she could, the reported incident, from all sides.

 

Patrick Emek                                             

                                                                            

If you do not believe the BBC's explanation of why it removed material from it's website and want alternative viewpoints, you will find them at: 

  http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-bbc-report-ukrainian-fighter-jet-shot-down-mhi7-donetsk-eyewitnesses/5393631

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/11/western-news-suppression-downing-mh-17-malaysian-jet.html

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=18e_1418590601

The deleted/censored BBC/Ivshina MH17 Report with English subtitles: https://vimeo.com/111325917

   

  There Were 2 Military Aircraft Present In this Extract Below

   The video extract below is not BBC copyright footage.

If anyone cares to claim it as their copyright material, please let me know.

1.Source: Anonymous Sender 

 

©Patrick Emek, 2015

Grammatical corrections on 8th March, 2015

if you cannot view it at this site type the following You Tube entry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4r1bvWtObo


2.Sent with the message:

''Please let the relatives of the victims know that these stories are not true.''
I am including the video – without any further comment.

2. Source:Anonymous Sender

Additional References

http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/blogs/2014/07/140724_blog_editors_bbc_story_rework.shtml

http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/multimedia/2014/07/140722_v_mh17_buk_hunt.shtml 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=18e_1418590601

 Also from external sources:

vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.es 
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/the-catastrophe-of-mh17-bbc-in-search.html
The Catastrophe of #MH17: BBC in the Search of the “#BUK” –
The Video Report Censored by BBC
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
Note: Videos & a PDF of the Google Web-cache Have Been Preserved and Are Available Upon Request Preamble: Why did the BBC delete this report by Olga Ivshina? Is it because the BBC team was unable to find any evidence that a rocket was launched in the area that the Ukrainian Security Service (“SBU”) alleges to be the place from which the Novorossiya Militia launched a “BUK” missile?  Or is it because every eyewitness interviewed by the BBC team specifically indicated the presence of Ukrainian military aircraft right beside the Malaysian Airlines Boeing MH17 at the time that it was shot down?  Or is it because of eyewitness accounts (like the one posted following the transcript of the BBC report) confirming that the Ukrainian air force regularly used civilian aircraft flying over Novorossiya as human shields to protect its military aircraft conducting strikes against civilian population from the Militia’s anti-aircraft units?
I reserve the final judgment to the readers of this blog. This entry is broken down into:
1. introductory paragraphs to the BBC video report;
2. English-language transcript of the BBC video report; and,
3. a video interview with Elena, a Militia fighter, recorded in Slavyansk on or about June 18, 2014, or one
month prior to the MH17 catastrophe, wherein she states that, even then, the Ukrainian military aircraft would customarily hide behind civilian aircraft to bomb civilian targets on the ground.
In the last part of this entry Elena predicts that the Ukrainian military will stage the horrible catastrophe like the MH17 crash - she makes this prediction one whole month prior to the disaster.
Video: The Catastrophe of #MH17: #BBC in the Search of the “#BUK”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8sjMWhl-4
Original BBC Video Report: Preserved by Google Web-cache
Introductory Paragraphs to the BBC Video Report
The “black boxes” of the crashed Malaysian Boeing have finally been transferred into the hands of the experts.
However, how much can they tell us?
The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.
The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.
The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from Russia.
The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a “BUK” missile.
BBC reporter Olga Ivshina and producer Oksana Vozhdayeva decided to find the place from which the missile was allegedly launched.
Transcript of the BBC Video Report DPR Representative: Here it is.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The black boxes from the crashed Boeing are finally being transferred into the hands of the experts. However, how much can they tell us?
The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.
The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.
Eyewitness #1: There were two explosions in the air. And this is how it broke apart. And [the fragments] blew apart like this, to the sides. And when …
Eyewitness #2: … And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.
Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.
Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from the direction of Russia.
Vitaliy Naida, Department of Counterintelligence of SBU [Ukrainian Security Service]: This was a BUK M1 system from which the aircraft was shot down. It came to Ukraine early in the morning on the 17th of July. It was delivered by a tow truck to the city of Donetsk. After that, it was redeployed from Donetsk, as part of a column of military equipment, to the area of the city of Torez, to the area of Snezhnoye, to the area of Pervomaisk.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a “BUK” missile. We attempted to verify these photographs and information at the location.
One of the photographs showed a landscape not far from the city of Torez, on which smoke could be seen coming from the presumed location of the missile’s launch. We attempted to find this location, and it appears that we were successful.
We are now on the outskirts of the city of Torez. Behind me, approximately five kilometres away, is the city of Snezhnoye. And the landscape here matches the landscape that we can see on the photograph published by the Ukrainian Security Service.
To find the place from which the smoke was allegedly coming from, we adopted as markers these three poplars and the group of trees. Presumably, this is the place that can be seen on the photograph published by the SBU.
And here are our markers: the three solitary poplars and the small group of trees in the distance.
The smoke that can be seen on the photograph came from somewhere over there [pointing behind her], behind my back. The SBU believes that this is a trace coming from the launch of a “BUK” missile.
However, it must be noted that there are here, approximately in the same place, the Saur-Mogila memorial, near which the fighting continues almost unabated, and a coalmine. It turns out that the smoke with the same degree of probability could have been coming from any of these locations.
Having circled around the nearby fields, we were unable to find any traces of a missile launch. Nor did the local inhabitants that we encountered see any “BUK” either.
At the ruins of an apartment building in the city of Snezhnoye, the topic of the jet fighters that may have been escorting civilian aircraft comes up again. A bomb dropped from above took away the lives of eleven civilians here.
Sergey Godovanets, Commander of the Militia of the city of Snezhnoye: They use these civilian aircraft to hide behind them. It is only now that they stopped flying over us – but, usually, civilian aircraft would always fly above
us. And they hide [behind them]. [The experience in] Slavyansk had demonstrated that they would fly out from behind a civilian aircraft, bomb away, and then hide, once again, behind the civilian aircraft and fly away.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The commander of the local militia emphasizes that they have no weaponry capable of shooting down a jet fighter [flying] at a significant height. However, he says that if such weaponry were to appear,
they would have tried to.
Sergey Godovanets: If we know that it is not a civilian aircraft, but a military one, then – yes.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: So, could the Boeing have been shot down by the militias that had mistaken it for a military aircraft? There is as yet no unequivocal confirmation of either this or any other version [of what took place]. The international experts are just beginning their work with the information obtained from the crashed airliner. It now appears that it is difficult to overstate the importance of this investigation. Olga Ivshina, BBC.
Militia Elena: Ukrainian Military Planes Hide Behind Civilian Airliners
Video: Recorded at least one month prior to MH17 Crash, published with ENG subs on June 18, 2014
Note: Pay close attention starting at 01:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKoKmUtQXE 
(this reference has now been deleted by You Tube) 


an alternative explanation can be found at:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Talk:Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 


External Material (extract) available from other sources (August 2nd 2014)
Photograph of Mh -17 Cockpit.
Website reference:
https://ronaldwederfoort.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/cis-the-plane-mh-17-was-brought-down-by-machine-gun-fire-from-the-right-and-above/

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How the deleted BBC video runs in timeframe snapshots (extracted):

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 black boxes of crashed Boeing

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 but they do not tell you what exactly was

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 part of this explosion

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 nearby villages assures that

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 seen in the sky shortly before warplanes

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 namely fighters in their opinion could

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 recently did that and that passenger

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 at the time of arrest of the book so

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 Ukrainian authorities rejected this version

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 which was hit by a plane

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 in this area Torez it accurately

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 for snow in an interview marca

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 we tried to find this place and it seems

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 terrain here coincide

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 to find a place from which

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 we took these three benchmarks for their poplar

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 ALOR tomb complex near which

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 likely outcome of any of these locations

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 accompanying contact ports

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 life is one of six people

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 civilian aircraft fly and sometimes

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 it stopped flying civilian prime minister

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 I do not hide the fact that it is a little more time

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 they showed that the interest for

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 commander of the local militia

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 emphasize that they have no weapons

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 able to really knock

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 any mistake not civil turnover

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 weapons

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 so could anyone could be brought down by militias

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 who mistook his

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 unambiguous confirmation of this and

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 international experts only

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 significance of this investigation now

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 reduced 900

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черные ящики
разбившегося боинга

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наконец передает вот
и экспертов

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ну как много они могут
рассказать

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самописцы
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координаты и кур
самолета на момент

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инцидента

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и могли сохраниться
звук взрыва

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но они не расскажут
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вызван этот взрыв

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жители близлежащих
сёл уверяет что

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видели в небе боевые
самолеты незадолго до

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катастрофы

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именно истребителей
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сбить boeing

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два взрыва была в
воздухе вот это вот

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как он разрывался

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так вот когда
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елена самолет военное
давление они же

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ничего потому что
было видно было

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недавние сделали что
пассажирского и что

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но результат

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на момент задержания
книги поэтому от

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самолета татре
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поменял траекторию
полета все что летело

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в ту сторону

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власти украины
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они считают что бой он
был сбит ракетой

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комплекса бук
прибывшего со стороны

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россии эта система

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бук м1

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в которую был сбит
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прибыла в украину к
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она была доставлена
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после этого было

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я передислоцирована
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колонны военной
техники

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в этот район города
торез в нем точно

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за снежного в
интервью marca

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служба безопасности
украины обнародовала

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снимки и видео по ее
мнению доказывающий

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что boeing

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был сбит ракетой
булку

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мы постараемся

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проверить эти снимки
и данные на местности

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на одной из
фотографий был

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изображен продаж
недалеко

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от города стараюсь на
котором был виден дым

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с места предполагала
пуска ракеты

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мы постарались найти
это место и кажется

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это нам удалось мы
находимся на окраине

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города тарасов за
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в пяти километрах
город снежного и

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рельеф местности
здесь совпадают

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рельеф местности
который мы видим на

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фотографии
обнародованные

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службы безопасности
украины

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чтобы найти место с
которого

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предположительно
исходила дым

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мы взяли за ориентиры
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группу деревья

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предположительно а
вот она вместо

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которой видно на
горизонте фотографии

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обнародованные сбу а
вот у наши ориентиры

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три одиночных то
поляки и громко

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дереве в белеке

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дым который видно на
фотографии сходила

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откуда то оттуда из за
моей спины избушек ii

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оскара ракета book но

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нужно отметить что
здесь примерно в этом

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же месте находится
мемориальный

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комплекс алор могила
около которого

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постоянно идут бои ее
угольная шахта

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получается дым мог
спокойно степени

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вероятности исходить
из любого из этих мест

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покружив по
близлежащим полям

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следов запуска ракеты
нам найти

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не удалось

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не видели букве
встреченные нами

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местные жители

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городе стрежевой темы

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истребителей
возможно

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сопровождавшие
контакте порты

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с половиной года

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запрошенная сверху
бомба унесла здесь

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жизни один из шести
человек

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они прикрываются
этими

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гражданские самолеты
летают и подчас

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перестали летать это
гражданских премьера

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балета

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я не прятать мало того
что это еще раз

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показал что они
проценты за

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гражданского летали
бомбили опять прятали

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за гражданские права

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командир местных
ополченцев

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подчеркивать что у
них нет оружия

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способного сбить
действительно

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большой высоте

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но говорит что если бы
такое оружие друг

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появилось они бы
попытались

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ведь любая ошибка не
гражданский оборот

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оружия

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так мог любой мог быть
сбит ополченцами

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которые по ошибке
приняли его

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за боевой самолет

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однозначного
подтверждения и этой

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или других версий
пока нет

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международные
эксперты только

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начинает работу с
данными разбившегося

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лайнера

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значимость этого
расследования сейчас

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кажется

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трудно переоценить

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уменьшена 900

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 cajas negras del Boeing se estrelló

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 finalmente pasa aquí y expertos

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 Bueno, ¿cuánto le pueden decir

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 Coordenadas planas y pollos en el momento

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 pero no te dicen qué es exactamente lo era

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 parte de esta explosión

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 pueblos cercanos asegura que

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 visto en el cielo poco antes de aviones de guerra

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 Catástrofe

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 a saber, los combatientes en su dictamen podría

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 golpear boeing

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 dos explosiones en el aire esto es ahora

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 Y así, cuando es positiva en ambos lados

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 presión militar plano elena como

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 recientemente hizo eso y que los pasajeros

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 en el momento de la detención de la obra por lo que

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 Tatra afectada aviones

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 cambiado la trayectoria de todo lo que voló

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 en la dirección equivocada

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 Las autoridades ucranianas rechazaron esta versión

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 llegó a Ucrania en la ciencia y el cerdo

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 para la nieve en una marca entrevista

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 Servicio de Seguridad de Ucrania publicó

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 fotos y videos en su opinión demuestra

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 que boeing

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 fue alcanzado por una hogaza de misiles

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 echa un vistazo a estas imágenes y datos en áreas

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 una de las fotografías era

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 muestra ventas cercanas

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 Aquí hay que señalar que esta aproximadamente

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 este lugar es un monumento

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 ALOR complejo de la tumba cerca de la cual

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 humo podría fácilmente obtenido grado

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 sobre las ruinas de las discusiones Strezhevoi

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 la vida es una de las seis personas

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 que dejó de volar primer ministro civil

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 reducida 900

President Putin

A Man More Sinned Against?
[Invasion Of The Body Snatchers*]

It's not easy to know exactly where to place President Putin.

To many in the West he is portrayed as a villain – the epitome of evil, of everything wrong with Russia today. To others he is the savior of Russia, in whose absence it would have been sold, lock, stock and barrel to American multinationals and international banks.

If not ISIL or Al Qaeda, everything bad which befalls the West is the product of this evil genius, Vladimir Putin – no proof required – don't even take time to question nor investigate the circumstances – just rush to judgement and you will have fulfilled the criteria.

A schemer and the ultimate Godfather.  The harbinger of death and destruction – if you are a Western Ukrainian nationalist.   If you are pro-Russian, living in the Crimea or in the East Regions , a reincarnation of Peter the Great.

If you live in Chechnya, President Putin has facilitated stability out of total chaos and anarchy.   Chechnya now, and what it was 20 years ago, are two different countries.   Chechnya today has totally disappeared from the Western media yet it was in daily reportage when Al Qaeda-affiliated groups were butchering local citizens (and foreigners) with frightening regularity.  If you were a Chechen nationalist or pro Western rebel you rue and curse the day Vladimir Putin came to power, nay, the day he was born.

Because of the world economic and the oil crises, the Rouble has collapsed – and for that many Russians curse Putin. But the more pressure and demonization America and the West pile upon their nemesis, the more his own people forgive him for this transgression.

I could quote you eminent scholar after eminent scholar from the most prestigious institutes in the West who will, on the basis of their scholarly analysis, decades of experience and membership of the most prestigious and elite institutions in the world, all tell you why President Putin is an evil, demented, ogre, akin to Adolf Hitler.   In fact many will confirm that he has Asbergers syndrome – and this in part accounts for his dysfunctionalities.  What many of these eminent individuals will not tell you is their own ties to extreme neo-Conservative, neo-Nazi and other extremist organisations.   Is this a lapse of memory which is acceptable in the sense that the end justifies the means?   If so then they are absolved from all blame.

There are so many issues which open chasms and gulfs between Russia and the West with both on different sides of the perceptive divide.    I could mention them all – but that would only provide opportunists to home in on my own prejudices and priorities – which I have no intention of doing: sometimes exasperation, mystery or enigma is not a completely bad thing (!)

Not too long ago I was walking with a friend on Main Street and I said, 'let's just stand still here for a minute and let everyone pass us by.' My colleague was obliging and as we stood still, swarms of robots, outtakes from Fritz Lang's 'Metropolis' swarmed yet contoured around us, never colliding, almost unaware of our suspension in time, some expressing a millisecond of surprise or shock that two individuals had actually stopped time itself to witness it's passing.    As they continued to meander their way, I said ''you know, sometimes I feel that I am the odd one left out – like in the film 'Invasion of The Body Snatchers'.'' Everyone else thinks it's perfectly reasonable for NATO to be in the Ukraine and evil Russia is blocking the path to freedom.   Nobody is thinking for themselves nor questioning or asking or 'but wait a minute, what if Russian military forces had bases in Mexico or in Canada or Greenland, Iceland, The Caribbean or South America would this also be OK and reasonable for the United States?  I would think not.   It would certainly not be OK for me.   As a sometime pacifist, which is why I believed in NATO during the days of the Cold War, I would now probably be arming myself to the teeth under such conditions (!)    The issue here for me is that nobody is questioning, nobody is thinking independently, everyone (well, almost everyone) is letting someone or something else do their thinking for them – and shape how they frame their thoughts and opinions.   I have said this a long time ago, perhaps I am just too dumb to program?  (That's a new one!; you've heard of '''too big to fail'' now how about ''too dumb to program?'')  Perhaps you have to be at a certain intellectual level (higher or lower) before the Body Snatchers can capture your mind?   I am still to this day trying to work out what makes me so 'unprogrammable'.   I was always terrible at IQ Tests - failed them all – so that might be some indicator.   I was always terrible at 'Logic Tests' – failed them all.   I hated Crossword Puzzles could never put all the Lego pieces in the right places and had no brain for Jigsaw Puzzles, and it would have taken me centuries to get Rubrik's Cube sorted out (!)   So perhaps these are some of the reasons the Body Snatchers just gave me up as a lost cause and moved on to a more promising trophy – the rest of the world.   In a way I am glad that they did. I am just not 'hard-wired' to appreciate the logic of their arguments. 
Not too long ago I got a look of incredulity from someone on a six figure salary when I said I was happier writing blogs for nothing than being one of the 'herd' and how, unlike Mephisto's Faust, I would feel 'gutted' if I (consciously) took the money and sold my soul.   I can't blame him for walking away, probably shaking his head in despair and with resignation. 

 

As we stood suspended on Main Street I could see that my colleague remembered something....from some distant past existence....which resonated with what I was saying.....but it was so distant.....so far gone.......but strangely so familiar....was it deja vu or something else?.....my colleague seemed to say without a word being spoken.....it was something...something....so.....so.....intangible.....that....in order to believe.....would require a huge leap of faith.....which logic cautioned 'one should never entertain.'

''There's one born every minute'', he probably mused to himself as we recommenced our journey, in a hiatus of silence.

Only time will tell.

©Patrick Emek, 2015


*Don Siegel's 1956 film, in it's fourth remake, in 2007, as 'The Invasion'.
In my opinion, the original still remains the classic.

The Tail Wagging the Dog!

Netanyahu's Invasion:

Congress in Peril!

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Special Forces Deployed to protect the white house

 

illegal aliens en-route!

(no red carpet for bibi!)

not to be missed!

NETANYAHU'S bID FOR the u.s. pRESIDENCY:

see the circus live tomorrow (tuesday 3^rd March)

at a propaganda TV channel near to you (!)

10:45 Am [ u.s. EST]

/5.55 pm (Israel):-

5 minute delay on Israel TV to censor all of the

''if I am re-elected …'' statements

if you want to escape from the CONGRESS OF THE planet of the apes  on tuesday morning here's the rest of the viewings :

List of alternative viewing for tuesday 3^rd March from 10.00am

PBS :                       Sesame Street followed by Dinosaur Train

BBC Amercia :        Star Trek-The Next Generation followed by Dr Who

BET:                        The Game

BRAVO :                 Shahs of Sunset

Cartoon Network : Tom & Jerry

Cinemax :               A History Of Violence

CMT :                      Kindergarten Cop / Dog & Beth:On the Hunt

Comedy Central:    South Park

DLIF:               Trauma - Life in The ER

Disney:            Doc McStuffins followed by Sofia The First

Disney xd:       Kick Buttowski Suburban Daredevil

E! :                   Oceans 13/Sex and the City

EncRe:             Live And Let Die

ESPNU :           The Herd With Colin Cowherd

FSI :                 Shut up and Drive followed by Nascar Sprint Cup Series from Atlanta
FXE:                     Unstoppable

Fuse:                  Top 100 Sexiest Videos

Golf TV:              Morning Drive

HBO :                 Edge of Tomorrow – followed by Getaway

HBOsge             '' We're the Millers!''

HBO2:                The Hobbit – An Unexpected Journey

HBO2e:              Munich

HGtv:                 Love It or List It

History Channel : The Definitive Guide To The Mob followed by The                            St. Valentine's Day Massacre

ID Channel:              Disappeared

MTV:                         Teen Mum

MOMAxe                       The First Wives Club

Nat. Geograph TV:   Inside Combat Rescue/Border Wars

OWN TV:                 Dr. Phil

OXYGN:                   My Wife & Kids

Science Channel:      How It's Made

SMITH TV:                Mystery Files

AMC:                        Titanic
SUNDe:                    Cool Hand Luke

Animal Planet:       Call of The Wildman

FLIX:                       Consenting Adults

lRW:                        Cook Yourself Thin

TNT:Supernatural
TCM:The Hurricane

TMC: The Importance of Being Ernest/Nixon

SYFY: Monsterwolf/ Fact or Faked – Paranormal Files

VH1 : The Gossip Table

WE TV: Judge Hatchett

WGNA: Walker, Texas Ranger/In the Heat Of The Night

Summary of The Talk Given by Nigerian Presidential Candidate General Muhammadu Buhari at Chatham House London on 26^th February 2015

Reason for summary:
Normally this site does not entertain extracts nor summaries from public relations 'non-partisan' (political) livestream feeds as most are simply of propaganda value - which you can find a cent a dozen on the web.  Nigeria, however, is one of Africa's most important countries.  It is currently engaged in an internal war against the ISIL-linked group Boko Haram who have taken over vast areas of this country and declared the allegiance of their annexed territory to the ISIL Caliphate.
Nigeria has critical general elections in a month the outcome of which could shape the course of events  for the next 5 years in this potentially highly unstable region.  Nigeria is one of the West's key suppliers of oil and will also include gas as a major export.

General Buhari is one of the very few widely respected candidates in Nigeria who, if elected President, is likely to attempt to deliver on any promises made after the general election. 

It should take less than five minutes to read this summary but the full talk and following discussion, should you have the time, is available from Chatham House website at the link given below.

Nigeria
Nigeria , the most populous nation on the African continent which has also recently surpassed South Africa as Africa's largest economy, faces a watershed general election on 28^th of March of this year.

The incumbent government has failed abysmally to curb the activities of the ISIL-linked Boko Haram – which has now seized part of the country the size of Belgium and has pledged allegiance to ISIL's Caliphate. Boko Haram sends children as young as eight years old, strapped with explosives, into congested marketplaces, to blow themselves up and cause as much carnage as you can ever imagine.  The loss of life in Nigeria is horrendous-some 13,000 lives lost and millions of Nigerians internally displaced because of Boko Haram. All this, taking place against a failure of the incumbent government to curb extremism, has pushed Nigeria into the top league of 'terrorist' alert nations in the world.

This morning, under the auspices of Chatham House, General Muhammadu Buhari, a former Military Ruler and current Presidential Candidate in this election, gave a speech where he outlined his vision for Nigeria.

The meeting is still in progress and you can view it at Chatham House's website.

I have summarized below the main points the General made.

Nigeria:

• Most populous country on the African continent.
• Recently overtook South Africa as Africa's largest economy.
• The number of democracies in Africa (countries holding elections) is now 42 out of 48.
• ''Mere elections do not a democracy make'' what is more important are the consolidation of democracy and democratic principles (sic. in democratic institutions), transparency and accountability.
• The 'post Republic' is now in it's 60^th year.
• Democratic consolidation is taking place but the problems of corruption, inequality, and lack of opportunity are endemic.
• ''If I am elected President Nigeria will return to it's role as a stabilizing force in West Africa.''
• Nigeria's Armed forces have always been prepared to do their duty, and have formed the backbone of peacekeeping operations across the continent of Africa -such as the Congo, Sierra Leone, Liberia; they are capable, brave, and patriotic but have been starved of financial and technical resources in their war against ISIL-linked Boko Haram.
• ''If elected President I will never allow any part of Nigeria to be held by a terrorist group.'' (ISIL linked Boko Haram currently holds territory in Nigeria the size of the country of Belgium.)
• Waste and corruption have all bloomed under the incumbent administration – this I will put an end to.
• I will use the resources recouped from corrupt individuals for the funding of social, educational, health, and job creation programs for the unemployed (some 60% of the youth of Nigeria is currently without work.)
• We will run a functional economy which works for the people and not just for the elite.
• My administration will ensure that Nigeria is no longer amongst the league of nations with the highest inequality rates amongst it's citizens in the world with it's poorest most disproportionately disenfranchized – this I will change for the better of the poor.
• There will be no place in my administration for corrupt politicians nor for such officials.
• The Nigeria Petroleum Corporation (NPC) will only have  ONE  set of books for annual auditing (!)
• On March 28^th the citizens of Nigeria can vote yet again for failure – should they elect the incumbent government – or for progress -by electing the Party I represent.
• We need to get this critical election right so that Nigeria, my country, can again progress on the road towards the true consolidation of democracy and democratic principles of justice, education, health, employment for all, lack of corruption, so that Nigeria can again resume it's rightful place as a beacon of stability and begin a process of shared prosperity for all of it's citizens -especially those less fortunate.
• Finally I have been referred in the Press as a 'former dictator'. This I admit. But I have never shied away from duty and have always taken responsibility for all my actions.
• ''Before you is a former military ruler, now democrat, prepared to submit to all the rigors of democracy because I truly believe in the power of the ballot box to bring about change for my country, Nigeria.''

General Muhammadu Buhari thanked his host, Sir Richard Gozney, former High Commissioner to Nigeria (2004-2007) for this morning at Chatham House.

Question time then commenced.

You can see the full streamed interview at:

http://www.chathamhouse.org/livestream

26 February 10:00 GMT

summary: ©Patrick Emek, February 2015